{"id":243,"date":"2008-05-09T15:06:05","date_gmt":"2008-05-09T15:06:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ubuntucat.wordpress.com\/?p=241"},"modified":"2008-05-09T15:06:05","modified_gmt":"2008-05-09T15:06:05","slug":"can-objectification-in-moderation-be-okay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/can-objectification-in-moderation-be-okay\/","title":{"rendered":"Can objectification in moderation be okay?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As a longtime feminist, I&#8217;ve read quite a bit of both layperson and professional writing on the objectification of women, particularly the sexual objectification of women. I understand it&#8217;s wrong. I understand it&#8217;s damaging to society and is one of many ways the patriarchy tries to keep women down. <\/p>\n<p> My question, though, is whether the wrongness of it is in the implementation of that objectification or the mere existence of it? In other words, in a perfectly egalitarian society (let&#8217;s imagine it&#8217;s possible), would objectification ever be okay in certain contexts? Or if it wasn&#8217;t the context that mattered, would it be okay if it weren&#8217;t prevalent (in other words, is it a quantity problem, as opposed to a quality problem)? <\/p>\n<p> After all, isn&#8217;t there plenty of objectification that is &#8220;okay&#8221; in our current society? We objectify movie stars and rock stars (and not just sexually). It&#8217;s not as if we all appreciate them fully as human beings. A lot of times we just isolate one part of them (acting ability, good looks, confidence, stage presence, whatever) and idolize it. How many times have you heard a fan of a star say something like, &#8220;Yeah, I know she&#8217;s an asshole in real life, but I love her movies&#8221;? It happens all the time. <\/p>\n<p> I&#8217;ll admit it. I objectify people all the time. You&#8217;re the annoying loud teenage kids on the bus. You&#8217;re the smelly homeless person asking me for change. You&#8217;re the guy in drag walking down the street. Do I get to know these people? Do I appreciate them for who they are as whole human beings and not just one aspect I choose to isolate and judge them by? No. I objectify them. I definitely objectify them.  I&#8217;m sure people objectify me too. <\/p>\n<p> We don&#8217;t have the time to get to know everyone and appreciate them all as whole human beings. It&#8217;s just not possible, and it&#8217;s not really part of human nature. That doesn&#8217;t mean that women should always be perceived as sex objects&mdash;whether they&#8217;re walking down the street, playing sports, giving a corporate presentation, or acting in a film. And I <i>think<\/i> (not 100% sure here) that that may be the problem, the sheer ubiquity of the sexual objectification of women. It&#8217;s not that women should <i>never<\/i> be objectified but that they shouldn&#8217;t <i>always<\/i> be objectified; and, in contemporary American culture (and other countries&#8217; cultures as well), they are almost always objectified sexually. <\/p>\n<p> I&#8217;m try to imagine, for example, if I were a porn actress, would I mind that people viewing my movies were objectifying me and thinking of me only sexually? Probably not. That&#8217;s kind of the whole point of the porn movie. On the other hand, if I were meeting with my accountant to discuss filing taxes or just meeting someone at a fundraiser, I probably would want them to talk to me and not my breasts. Maybe my imaginary life as a porn actress is way off, but that&#8217;s just what I&#8217;m thinking. I know some would argue that <i>porn<\/i> (as opposed to <i>erotica<\/i>) serves to make sexual objectification in everyday circumstances more prevalent. That may be true, too. Probably depends on the type of porn and who&#8217;s watching it. <\/p>\n<p> Any input into this, women and men, feminists and non-feminists? Is objectification in any context or society always wrong, or is it a matter of degrees or manifestation?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a longtime feminist, I&#8217;ve read quite a bit of both layperson and professional writing on the objectification of women, particularly the sexual objectification of women. I understand it&#8217;s wrong. I understand it&#8217;s damaging to society and is one of many ways the patriarchy tries to keep women down. My question, though, is whether the&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/can-objectification-in-moderation-be-okay\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Can objectification in moderation be okay?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[132,916,301],"class_list":["post-243","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-race-class-gender-sexuality","tag-feminism","tag-objectification","tag-sex-objects","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/243","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=243"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/243\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=243"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=243"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=243"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}