{"id":1544,"date":"2009-08-06T11:02:51","date_gmt":"2009-08-06T15:02:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/?p=1544"},"modified":"2009-08-06T11:02:51","modified_gmt":"2009-08-06T15:02:51","slug":"debian-stable-on-the-hp-mini","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/debian-stable-on-the-hp-mini\/","title":{"rendered":"Debian stable(?) on the HP Mini"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve distro-hopped. When I first starting using Linux back in spring 2005, I used Mepis, then Ubuntu. Then I tried about 15 or so other Linux distros and finally settled on Ubuntu again. I&#8217;ve been using Ubuntu ever since. <\/p>\n<p> Recently, though, I&#8217;ve been getting that itch again, so I&#8217;ve tried installing various distros on the 4 GB SD card in my HP Mini. <\/p>\n<p> <b>Arch<\/b> Linux gets a lot of hype on the Ubuntu Forums, so I thought I&#8217;d give that a shot. It isn&#8217;t as intimidating as some people make it sound. Yes, the installer doesn&#8217;t look pretty, and you have to do some stuff at the command-line, but the defaults in the configuration files are pretty good for most situations. Unfortunately, there was some weird error message when I tried to reboot. When I did some Google searches on the error message, I was told to add various parameters to the kernel line of the Grub entry, but nothing worked. So, Arch didn&#8217;t work on the SD card. <\/p>\n<p> Then I tried Simply <b>Mepis<\/b>. I have to say I was quite surprised that after four years, Mepis is pretty much the same way it was back when I used it in 2005. It even still uses KDE 3 instead of some version of KDE 4. The existence of a wireless setup tool is handy, but it&#8217;s a little confusing to actually use. Eventually I did get it working with my Broadcom 4312 card.  Unfortunately, once I installed all the pending updates, not only did the wireless card no longer work but all the suspend options disappeared from the power management applet. Nice try, Mepis. <\/p>\n<p> Then I thought I&#8217;d give <b>PCLinuxOS<\/b> a try again. Wouldn&#8217;t even boot. I got some kind of BusyBox error message after &#8220;burning&#8221; it to USB with UNetBootIn and rebooting. Maybe another time, PCLinuxOS. <\/p>\n<p> What about plain old <b>Debian<\/b> stable (nicknamed <i>Lenny<\/i>)? Well, when I tried to use the regular .iso through a UNetBootIn&#8217;ed USB, I got some error message about the CD-ROM not being detected. I did some considerable searching on this error message, and only a couple of &#8220;solutions&#8221; showed up in the search results (something about switching to another console and manually mounting the USB drive at \/cdrom or \/dev\/cdroms\/cdrom0), but nothing worked. So I went with a minimal net install of Debian, which took forever to install (I&#8217;d say something like four hours)&mdash;kind of reminded me of a Windows XP installation. <\/p>\n<p> In the middle of trying to configure things, Debian randomly froze up on me. Control-Alt-Delete didn&#8217;t work. Control-Alt-Backspace didn&#8217;t work. Nothing worked to get out of the freeze. I had to force a shutdown. Once I got it up and running again, I followed the instructions at <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.debian.org\/wl\">the Debian wiki for getting Broadcom 4312 working<\/a>, and it did work&#8230; but when I logged in again, it didn&#8217;t remember to connect to my preferred network. I had to manually connect and re-enter my password, even though it was listed as a network in the Network Manager connections, and the password was listed in the Gnome Keyring stored passwords.<\/p>\n<p> I experienced random CPU spikes every few minutes and did not always have USB devices automount. <\/p>\n<p>  The worst part, though, is that the Debian installer didn&#8217;t ask me <i>where<\/i> to install Grub. It just asked me <i>if<\/i> I wanted Grub installed, and it overwrote the Ubuntu Grub boot loader, so I couldn&#8217;t boot into Ubuntu, and I had to use a Ubuntu live USB to restore Ubuntu&#8217;s Grub to the MBR. <\/p>\n<p> And, I also had to UNetBootIn the Ubuntu .iso at work (using Windows), because UNetBootIn won&#8217;t install for Debian Lenny, and the old-fashioned method of simply copying the files over and renaming a couple of files left me with a BusyBox error. And I couldn&#8217;t just add Ubuntu manually to the Debian Grub menu, because Debian Lenny cannot mount an Ext4 partition, so I wouldn&#8217;t have even known what to put in the Grub entry. <\/p>\n<p> So, yeah, I may play around with Debian some more, just because it took so much just to get it installed, but I think I&#8217;ll probably be sticking with Ubuntu for another four years. Ubuntu isn&#8217;t perfect, but it also doesn&#8217;t give me headaches, even when I tried installing it to the SD card instead of the main drive.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve distro-hopped. When I first starting using Linux back in spring 2005, I used Mepis, then Ubuntu. Then I tried about 15 or so other Linux distros and finally settled on Ubuntu again. I&#8217;ve been using Ubuntu ever since. Recently, though, I&#8217;ve been getting that itch again, so I&#8217;ve tried&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/debian-stable-on-the-hp-mini\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Debian stable(?) on the HP Mini<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[596,12],"tags":[507,927,635],"class_list":["post-1544","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hp-mini","category-linux","tag-debian","tag-hp-mini","tag-lenny","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1544","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1544"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1544\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1557,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1544\/revisions\/1557"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1544"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1544"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.psychocats.net\/ubuntucat\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1544"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}