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	<title>Comments on: Windows and Linux on netbooks&#8230; what stays on?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/windows-and-linux-on-netbooks-what-stays-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4597</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic seems to be getting some very interesting comments this week! It looks like many people are writing about it. Some worthwhile reading from other sources:


* &quot;Death of Linux on netbooks greatly exaggerated&quot; by Ryan Paul Ars Technica http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/04/death-of-linux-on-netbooks-greatly-exaggerated.ars

* &quot;Microsoft, FUD and the netbook market&quot; by Chris Kenyon -  Canonical, OEM Services http://blog.canonical.com/?p=151

* &quot;Anti-Linux Propaganda du Jour: Windows Owns 96% Of Netbooks&quot; By Carla Schroder http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/2009/04/windows-owns-96.html

The last author concludes: &quot; The anti-Linux propaganda du jour, being dutifully parroted by &quot;news&quot; publications everywhere, is that Windows now owns 96% of the netbook market, and that Linux netbooks are returned four times more than windows netbooks. Both are untrue and have been debunked repeatedly. Yet they persist-- why?&quot;

&quot;I think Microsoft is growing increasingly desperate, and in hard economic times is finding equally desperate publications who will say anything for a few bucks. Which may be a harsh judgment, but I would rather believe that than believe they simply don&#039;t care to do even the simplest, most basic fact-checking, or are such hard-core Microsoft fanboys that they are only pretending to be journalists when they are really stringers for Microsoft&#039;s marketing department. How else can we explain the same nonsense repeated endlessly, their allergies to saying &quot;Windows&quot; and &quot;malware&quot; in the same sentence, the short shrift given to non-Windows software, the mind-boggling assumption that Windows is computing?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic seems to be getting some very interesting comments this week! It looks like many people are writing about it. Some worthwhile reading from other sources:</p>
<p>* &#8220;Death of Linux on netbooks greatly exaggerated&#8221; by Ryan Paul Ars Technica <a href="http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/04/death-of-linux-on-netbooks-greatly-exaggerated.ars" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/04/death-of-linux-on-netbooks-greatly-exaggerated.ars</a></p>
<p>* &#8220;Microsoft, FUD and the netbook market&#8221; by Chris Kenyon &#8211;  Canonical, OEM Services <a href="http://blog.canonical.com/?p=151" rel="nofollow">http://blog.canonical.com/?p=151</a></p>
<p>* &#8220;Anti-Linux Propaganda du Jour: Windows Owns 96% Of Netbooks&#8221; By Carla Schroder <a href="http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/2009/04/windows-owns-96.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/2009/04/windows-owns-96.html</a></p>
<p>The last author concludes: &#8221; The anti-Linux propaganda du jour, being dutifully parroted by &#8220;news&#8221; publications everywhere, is that Windows now owns 96% of the netbook market, and that Linux netbooks are returned four times more than windows netbooks. Both are untrue and have been debunked repeatedly. Yet they persist&#8211; why?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I think Microsoft is growing increasingly desperate, and in hard economic times is finding equally desperate publications who will say anything for a few bucks. Which may be a harsh judgment, but I would rather believe that than believe they simply don&#8217;t care to do even the simplest, most basic fact-checking, or are such hard-core Microsoft fanboys that they are only pretending to be journalists when they are really stringers for Microsoft&#8217;s marketing department. How else can we explain the same nonsense repeated endlessly, their allergies to saying &#8220;Windows&#8221; and &#8220;malware&#8221; in the same sentence, the short shrift given to non-Windows software, the mind-boggling assumption that Windows is computing?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anjilslaire</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/windows-and-linux-on-netbooks-what-stays-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4437</link>
		<dc:creator>anjilslaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your sentiments, aysiu, but FYI my mini 9 shipped from Dell with Ubuntu &amp; a 32gig SSD.

Better than 16gig, but not enough for some, I know. I simply store everything else server-side on my desktop and have it shared on the network. 32gigs of local storage is enough in most cases I&#039;ve found for netbook use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your sentiments, aysiu, but FYI my mini 9 shipped from Dell with Ubuntu &amp; a 32gig SSD.</p>
<p>Better than 16gig, but not enough for some, I know. I simply store everything else server-side on my desktop and have it shared on the network. 32gigs of local storage is enough in most cases I&#8217;ve found for netbook use.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/windows-and-linux-on-netbooks-what-stays-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4432</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do tend to agree with the OP. Computer vendors so far have been doing a lousy job with Linux, not all vendors, however. If you are in the US, do check out Zareason.com for a newer eeepc. It looks like right now they are out of stock, but, hopefully, not for long. Let&#039;s send some business their way!
http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16186&amp;cat=0&amp;page=1
http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16178&amp;cat=0&amp;page=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do tend to agree with the OP. Computer vendors so far have been doing a lousy job with Linux, not all vendors, however. If you are in the US, do check out Zareason.com for a newer eeepc. It looks like right now they are out of stock, but, hopefully, not for long. Let&#8217;s send some business their way!<br />
<a href="http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16186&#038;cat=0&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16186&#038;cat=0&#038;page=1</a><br />
<a href="http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16178&#038;cat=0&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16178&#038;cat=0&#038;page=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/windows-and-linux-on-netbooks-what-stays-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4406</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ubuntucat, I think you need to change careers.  Given your knowledge of the system, your complaints about other vendors&#039; treatment of Ubuntu, and the fact you&#039;ve supported a brick-and-mortar Ubuntu store for years... start one!  Maybe you could even get some starter cash from Mark Shuttleworth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntucat, I think you need to change careers.  Given your knowledge of the system, your complaints about other vendors&#8217; treatment of Ubuntu, and the fact you&#8217;ve supported a brick-and-mortar Ubuntu store for years&#8230; start one!  Maybe you could even get some starter cash from Mark Shuttleworth.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/windows-and-linux-on-netbooks-what-stays-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4377</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really what amazes me is that OEMs are still selling WinXP netbooks right now - the operating system&#039;s mainstream support ends on Tuesday this week - 14 April 2009. 

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectwin

Now I think that is criminal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really what amazes me is that OEMs are still selling WinXP netbooks right now &#8211; the operating system&#8217;s mainstream support ends on Tuesday this week &#8211; 14 April 2009. </p>
<p><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectwin" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectwin</a></p>
<p>Now I think that is criminal!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/windows-and-linux-on-netbooks-what-stays-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4355</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you and thought the same thing about the new Eee. Friends&#039; objections that &quot;Microsoft isn&#039;t making much on the license&quot; holds little water anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you and thought the same thing about the new Eee. Friends&#8217; objections that &#8220;Microsoft isn&#8217;t making much on the license&#8221; holds little water anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy Macdonald</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/windows-and-linux-on-netbooks-what-stays-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4350</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmy Macdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were I offered two identical netbooks for the same price, but one came with XP, and the other with some kind of Linux, I&#039;d pick XP. Why?
1)I would probably prefer Ubuntu or Xubuntu to the alienated variant the OEM cooked up.
2)Since I&#039;m reinstalling the OS, I&#039;d rather have a free XP license in my pocket--every now and then it comes in handy (StarCraft LAN party!)
3)If the HD was big enough, dual-booting would be excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were I offered two identical netbooks for the same price, but one came with XP, and the other with some kind of Linux, I&#8217;d pick XP. Why?<br />
1)I would probably prefer Ubuntu or Xubuntu to the alienated variant the OEM cooked up.<br />
2)Since I&#8217;m reinstalling the OS, I&#8217;d rather have a free XP license in my pocket&#8211;every now and then it comes in handy (StarCraft LAN party!)<br />
3)If the HD was big enough, dual-booting would be excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: stevewiilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevewiilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a post on my own blog concerning this topic. I too believe the statistics, but Ubuntu is far better than XP, in my personal opinion.
Windows 7, on the other hand, is far superior. Thankfully, Windows 7 Starter edition can run on netbooks - even ones using Atom processors. Unfortunately, Microsoft came up with the pathetic idea of a three-app limit, so you can only run three differnet applications at any one time. A bit stupid, considering Linux has no multitasking limits.
I eagerly anticipate testing Ubuntu Netbook Remix when it comes out of beta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a post on my own blog concerning this topic. I too believe the statistics, but Ubuntu is far better than XP, in my personal opinion.<br />
Windows 7, on the other hand, is far superior. Thankfully, Windows 7 Starter edition can run on netbooks &#8211; even ones using Atom processors. Unfortunately, Microsoft came up with the pathetic idea of a three-app limit, so you can only run three differnet applications at any one time. A bit stupid, considering Linux has no multitasking limits.<br />
I eagerly anticipate testing Ubuntu Netbook Remix when it comes out of beta.</p>
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