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	<title>Comments on: Why do women slut-shame?</title>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-women-slut-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-32443</link>
		<dc:creator>Lara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what about all the man-made porn filled with video descriptions about &quot;sluts&quot;? Hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what about all the man-made porn filled with video descriptions about &#8220;sluts&#8221;? Hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bobsutan</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-women-slut-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-31230</link>
		<dc:creator>bobsutan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s hardly any real evidence that men slut shame. It&#039;s primarily women who do it: 

http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf

&quot;The view that men suppress female sexuality received hardly any support and is flatly contradicted by some findings. Instead, the evidence favors the view that women have worked to stifle each other’s sexuality because sex is a limited resource that women use to negotiate with men, and scarcity gives women an advantage.&quot;

In other words slut shaming is something women principally do to each other to minimize competition in the sexual marketplace. When women break this natural imperative they&#039;re viewed as &quot;low quality&quot; because it drives down the value of female sexuality. When other women encounter this they tend to react at a visceral level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s hardly any real evidence that men slut shame. It&#8217;s primarily women who do it: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The view that men suppress female sexuality received hardly any support and is flatly contradicted by some findings. Instead, the evidence favors the view that women have worked to stifle each other’s sexuality because sex is a limited resource that women use to negotiate with men, and scarcity gives women an advantage.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words slut shaming is something women principally do to each other to minimize competition in the sexual marketplace. When women break this natural imperative they&#8217;re viewed as &#8220;low quality&#8221; because it drives down the value of female sexuality. When other women encounter this they tend to react at a visceral level.</p>
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		<title>By: Luisa Childs</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-women-slut-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-30105</link>
		<dc:creator>Luisa Childs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Ryan too!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Ryan too!!</p>
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		<title>By: Luisa Childs</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-women-slut-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-30104</link>
		<dc:creator>Luisa Childs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Kat, you articulated the phenomenon really well xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Kat, you articulated the phenomenon really well xx</p>
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		<title>By: Luisa Childs</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-women-slut-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-30102</link>
		<dc:creator>Luisa Childs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is definitely about women feeling threatened by other women when a woman seeks to shame another woman by calling her a &#039;slut&#039;.  I made the mistake of talkingly openly about sexuality with some co-workers in a former workplace who used this against me. They began making snide remarks about me and suddenly i felt as though I was thrown back in high school. They perpeptuated this perception of me, which was clearly something to look down upon when in actuality i was not actually &#039;promiscuous&#039; at all. perhaps they thought i was boasting. in any case, some women are insecure about their physical attractiveness and are threatened 
by women (straight women that is)whom men perceive to be attractive.  This is why they feel the need to cut them down. however, this ultra-competitiveness ultimately stems from a patriarchal society that measures a woman&#039;s worth primarily by her physical attractiveness. Both men &amp; women evaluate women according to how attractive they are even though the criteria for attractiveness shifts across different cultures. I asked my father the other day: &#039;what do you think of Dawn French?&#039; meaning, do you think she is funny. he responded by saying: &#039;she&#039;s fat...i don&#039;t like fat women.&#039; Yes, i was disheartened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is definitely about women feeling threatened by other women when a woman seeks to shame another woman by calling her a &#8216;slut&#8217;.  I made the mistake of talkingly openly about sexuality with some co-workers in a former workplace who used this against me. They began making snide remarks about me and suddenly i felt as though I was thrown back in high school. They perpeptuated this perception of me, which was clearly something to look down upon when in actuality i was not actually &#8216;promiscuous&#8217; at all. perhaps they thought i was boasting. in any case, some women are insecure about their physical attractiveness and are threatened<br />
by women (straight women that is)whom men perceive to be attractive.  This is why they feel the need to cut them down. however, this ultra-competitiveness ultimately stems from a patriarchal society that measures a woman&#8217;s worth primarily by her physical attractiveness. Both men &amp; women evaluate women according to how attractive they are even though the criteria for attractiveness shifts across different cultures. I asked my father the other day: &#8216;what do you think of Dawn French?&#8217; meaning, do you think she is funny. he responded by saying: &#8216;she&#8217;s fat&#8230;i don&#8217;t like fat women.&#8217; Yes, i was disheartened.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-women-slut-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-25791</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;women marry men hoping they&#039;ll change and men marry women hoping they won&#039;t &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;women marry men hoping they&#8217;ll change and men marry women hoping they won&#8217;t &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What females who put other women down as sluts don&#039;t realize is that men find that phrase as a description of women to be highly erotic.

Men are very driven to find sexually receptive partners (f) and as much as they tell their girlfriends or wives that is what they want first, the g/w always doesn&#039;t want to believe it. Men are more honest in what they want than women. My wife (who I love very much and have (3) kids with) is always telling me  &quot;why can&#039;t you be happy once in a while with sex&quot;.  Yet when we met she was as into sex as I was. The best line I ever heard was &quot;women Marty men hoping they&#039;ll change and menarry women hoping they won&#039;t)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What females who put other women down as sluts don&#8217;t realize is that men find that phrase as a description of women to be highly erotic.</p>
<p>Men are very driven to find sexually receptive partners (f) and as much as they tell their girlfriends or wives that is what they want first, the g/w always doesn&#8217;t want to believe it. Men are more honest in what they want than women. My wife (who I love very much and have (3) kids with) is always telling me  &#8220;why can&#8217;t you be happy once in a while with sex&#8221;.  Yet when we met she was as into sex as I was. The best line I ever heard was &#8220;women Marty men hoping they&#8217;ll change and menarry women hoping they won&#8217;t)</p>
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		<title>By: bobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these terms come from women. men are studs because women view promiscuous men as studs and won&#039;t touch the ones that aren&#039;t. since women reward this behavior, it continues. since men don&#039;t marry sluts, this behavior goes unrewarded. in addition to that, women use this word to keep girls from giving it away to easy, thus undercutting the rest. if a girl wants to hold out, the slut is a problem to be overcome....by shaming. all things begin with the women. the men are merely reacting and adjusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these terms come from women. men are studs because women view promiscuous men as studs and won&#8217;t touch the ones that aren&#8217;t. since women reward this behavior, it continues. since men don&#8217;t marry sluts, this behavior goes unrewarded. in addition to that, women use this word to keep girls from giving it away to easy, thus undercutting the rest. if a girl wants to hold out, the slut is a problem to be overcome&#8230;.by shaming. all things begin with the women. the men are merely reacting and adjusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-women-slut-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-22272</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys. Sex is not economics. Please stop using silly economic explanations to explain slut-shaming, because they rely on several misleading assumptions:

1. That all women are straight and want a male partner
2. That men choose partners based on how 
&quot;slutty&quot; they dress
3. That women don&#039;t also enjoy having multiple sexual partners
4. That not every action men take is motivated by sexual desire (sorry Freud)
5. That the only way women achieve power is through sex

Finally, economic explanations ignore that women who are overly frigid or overly plain are also stigmatized. Seriously guys, get your heads out of the 1950s and start treating women as people and not just mindless bitches whose every motivation is guided by pursuit of a mate. Recognize that the logic of evolutionary biology is deterministic and denies any free will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys. Sex is not economics. Please stop using silly economic explanations to explain slut-shaming, because they rely on several misleading assumptions:</p>
<p>1. That all women are straight and want a male partner<br />
2. That men choose partners based on how<br />
&#8220;slutty&#8221; they dress<br />
3. That women don&#8217;t also enjoy having multiple sexual partners<br />
4. That not every action men take is motivated by sexual desire (sorry Freud)<br />
5. That the only way women achieve power is through sex</p>
<p>Finally, economic explanations ignore that women who are overly frigid or overly plain are also stigmatized. Seriously guys, get your heads out of the 1950s and start treating women as people and not just mindless bitches whose every motivation is guided by pursuit of a mate. Recognize that the logic of evolutionary biology is deterministic and denies any free will.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slut shaming happens from guys and girls, just in different ways, but it&#039;s more surprising that it comes from girls I guess because of empathy. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s one shade of colour but squeamishness definitely comes into it. Sluts and nakedness and promiscuity are relatively new with women and I reckon once it&#039;s &#039;normal&#039; etc it&#039;ll be normal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slut shaming happens from guys and girls, just in different ways, but it&#8217;s more surprising that it comes from girls I guess because of empathy. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s one shade of colour but squeamishness definitely comes into it. Sluts and nakedness and promiscuity are relatively new with women and I reckon once it&#8217;s &#8216;normal&#8217; etc it&#8217;ll be normal.</p>
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