Comments on: Why do exempt jobs have hours? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/ Random musings from the radical feminist Christian antiracist left - some having to do with Ubuntu Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:47:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Penny http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3717 Penny Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:14:11 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3717 IMHO, the situtation you describe happens because bosses cannot understand that "exempt" means more than "you don't have to pay these people overtime." Even those who have had the reality beaten into their heads don't think it's right that a salaried employee can take half a day out of the office and not have to make it up sometime. Of course when the employee has just finished working a 70-hour week to accomplish a goal, that same boss is elated that they only have to pay them their regular salary. IMHO, the situtation you describe happens because bosses cannot understand that “exempt” means more than “you don’t have to pay these people overtime.” Even those who have had the reality beaten into their heads don’t think it’s right that a salaried employee can take half a day out of the office and not have to make it up sometime. Of course when the employee has just finished working a 70-hour week to accomplish a goal, that same boss is elated that they only have to pay them their regular salary.

]]> By: ubuntucat http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3608 ubuntucat Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:33:49 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3608 Yes, that's the other extreme, and I've seen it happen to a lot of friends who have high-powered jobs. They get paid a lot of money, but they work basically every working hour of the day. Hell, when I was a teacher, that's practically what it was like! Yes, that’s the other extreme, and I’ve seen it happen to a lot of friends who have high-powered jobs.

They get paid a lot of money, but they work basically every working hour of the day.

Hell, when I was a teacher, that’s practically what it was like!

]]> By: Chas http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3606 Chas Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:32:19 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3606 I haven't quite got my head around the term exempt in relation to a job. Anyway, I work for the British Civil Service and I guess Parkinson's law still applies in some cases. However more frequently I see another phenomenon and it seems to get more extreme the further you get up the ladder. That is you are paid for say an 8 hour day, but you regularly work longer than that, take work home, come in at weekends and then answer mobile phone calls and e mails using your Blackberry while you are holiday (vacation). Utter madness in my view. I haven’t quite got my head around the term exempt in relation to a job. Anyway, I work for the British Civil Service and I guess Parkinson’s law still applies in some cases. However more frequently I see another phenomenon and it seems to get more extreme the further you get up the ladder. That is you are paid for say an 8 hour day, but you regularly work longer than that, take work home, come in at weekends and then answer mobile phone calls and e mails using your Blackberry while you are holiday (vacation). Utter madness in my view.

]]> By: ubuntucat http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3602 ubuntucat Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:22:50 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3602 So it sounds as if it's less about what country you live in and more about how your company is run. Thanks for sharing, all. So it sounds as if it’s less about what country you live in and more about how your company is run. Thanks for sharing, all.

]]> By: scalesoflibra http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3600 scalesoflibra Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:25:11 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3600 You're certainly not alone. What you're describing sounds like Parkinson's Law (1955): Work expands to fill the amount of time given for it. He was going on his experience in the British Civil Service, so it's at least not a strictly American thing. It's funny in a sad way that after over 50 years we're still dealing with the same problem. Even if Parkinson was trying to be funny, his "law" has stuck around because it's so true. You’re certainly not alone. What you’re describing sounds like Parkinson’s Law (1955): Work expands to fill the amount of time given for it. He was going on his experience in the British Civil Service, so it’s at least not a strictly American thing.

It’s funny in a sad way that after over 50 years we’re still dealing with the same problem. Even if Parkinson was trying to be funny, his “law” has stuck around because it’s so true.

]]> By: st33med http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3589 st33med Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:09:22 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3589 Think about this way: why should you get paid for working? Would you rather get paid 24/7? You work 6 hours to get something done, but does it really provide value to yourself or others? Compare this: working 8 hours to get a non-important thing done versus being paid big money for working on something valuable that people would pay for. Then a solution would to become self-employed. See these links for reasons why to make your own business: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-reasons-you-should-never-get-a-job/ http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-myths-about-self-employment/ Yes, I like this guy XD. Think about this way: why should you get paid for working? Would you rather get paid 24/7? You work 6 hours to get something done, but does it really provide value to yourself or others?

Compare this: working 8 hours to get a non-important thing done versus being paid big money for working on something valuable that people would pay for.

Then a solution would to become self-employed.

See these links for reasons why to make your own business:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-reasons-you-should-never-get-a-job/
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-myths-about-self-employment/

Yes, I like this guy XD.

]]> By: bobplano http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3587 bobplano Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:15:15 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3587 It's a bit ironic, the jobs where you can choose hours are most hurt by not working diligently It’s a bit ironic, the jobs where you can choose hours are most hurt by not working diligently

]]> By: matthew http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-do-exempt-jobs-have-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3582 matthew Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:50:17 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1038#comment-3582 I am an American, so I don't quite fit your profile request. However, when I ran my business in Morocco, that is exactly how I ran it. My employees could come and go as they pleased, as long as the work was done well and on time and they showed up for appointments or meetings. I am an American, so I don’t quite fit your profile request. However, when I ran my business in Morocco, that is exactly how I ran it. My employees could come and go as they pleased, as long as the work was done well and on time and they showed up for appointments or meetings.

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