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		<title>By: 123</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/whats-the-point-of-ubuntu-remixes/comment-page-1/#comment-6148</link>
		<dc:creator>123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t tell you how many Windows users I see with the taskbar on the bottom and a green rolling hill with a blue sky for the desktop wallpaper.&quot;
h ha haaa...
&quot;ever taken a default installation and tweaked it to be exactly the way you want it? For some people, that can be just a couple of minutes. For others, it can take hours.&quot;
  use many hours, over days to setup windows, including all the best free/os apps (filefind, backup,,). registry &quot;tweaks&quot;. belarc lists the patches since sp3... (then, install something that uses dotnet, and belarc lists some additional patches)
probably tweaking nix will require days, once i&#039;ve refined my configs  :-)

there are mindboggling number of subdistros on distrowatch. 
too bad the data in the version lists aren&#039;t &quot;smart&quot;. some kind o filter selectr might be good, though wouldn&#039;t be much help for &quot;noobz&quot; who&#039;ve used few of the packages (apt? synaptic? yum? etc...)
what you really need for your demo liveccd is a cd-builder, not a prefab subdistro, which likely will omit certain apps. at least have a mega-dvd set, which i think is the suse paradigm.

btw, i expect to stick to winxp until another app can do good dnd. (wanna surmies upon the google chromeos as possible replacement of x-window/xserver?.. am i correct about this? my impression is that this weakness of the all important gui is a big obstacle to &quot;civilian&quot; converts (heh) to linuxes.

i wonder if the koranic remix is still maintained? I think i came across asatanic nix (or bsd?) seemed to exist, though a parody... lots of dark red website graphics. 
btw, try dynebolic. it&#039;s semi-unique distro, imo.
of many livecds i tried, it did best (including that the &quot;docking&quot; feature was decent)

my 1st jaunty install, netinstall: apt-get was rather good, imo.
but i don&#039;t see using Synaptic or whatever updater at the end of cd install as much problem!

&quot;Ubuntu Japanese Remix, which is necessary because for some reason the regular Japanese Ubuntu install gives you awful (and I mean practically unreadable) Japanese fonts and, what’s worse, _doesn’t include support for Japanese input by default_.&quot;
sounds as if the work of this subdistro isn&#039;t being &quot;folded into&quot; ubuntu&#039;s japanese version. I wonder why..

scripted in a javascript forward to Jesustv.com.
scripts? you mean an automtic redirect? if so, then ech.

btw, i came across acouple websites&#124;forums dedicated to netbooks (personally, i find them even less usable than &quot;regular&quot; `15&quot; laptops...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can’t tell you how many Windows users I see with the taskbar on the bottom and a green rolling hill with a blue sky for the desktop wallpaper.&#8221;<br />
h ha haaa&#8230;<br />
&#8220;ever taken a default installation and tweaked it to be exactly the way you want it? For some people, that can be just a couple of minutes. For others, it can take hours.&#8221;<br />
  use many hours, over days to setup windows, including all the best free/os apps (filefind, backup,,). registry &#8220;tweaks&#8221;. belarc lists the patches since sp3&#8230; (then, install something that uses dotnet, and belarc lists some additional patches)<br />
probably tweaking nix will require days, once i&#8217;ve refined my configs  :-)</p>
<p>there are mindboggling number of subdistros on distrowatch.<br />
too bad the data in the version lists aren&#8217;t &#8220;smart&#8221;. some kind o filter selectr might be good, though wouldn&#8217;t be much help for &#8220;noobz&#8221; who&#8217;ve used few of the packages (apt? synaptic? yum? etc&#8230;)<br />
what you really need for your demo liveccd is a cd-builder, not a prefab subdistro, which likely will omit certain apps. at least have a mega-dvd set, which i think is the suse paradigm.</p>
<p>btw, i expect to stick to winxp until another app can do good dnd. (wanna surmies upon the google chromeos as possible replacement of x-window/xserver?.. am i correct about this? my impression is that this weakness of the all important gui is a big obstacle to &#8220;civilian&#8221; converts (heh) to linuxes.</p>
<p>i wonder if the koranic remix is still maintained? I think i came across asatanic nix (or bsd?) seemed to exist, though a parody&#8230; lots of dark red website graphics.<br />
btw, try dynebolic. it&#8217;s semi-unique distro, imo.<br />
of many livecds i tried, it did best (including that the &#8220;docking&#8221; feature was decent)</p>
<p>my 1st jaunty install, netinstall: apt-get was rather good, imo.<br />
but i don&#8217;t see using Synaptic or whatever updater at the end of cd install as much problem!</p>
<p>&#8220;Ubuntu Japanese Remix, which is necessary because for some reason the regular Japanese Ubuntu install gives you awful (and I mean practically unreadable) Japanese fonts and, what’s worse, _doesn’t include support for Japanese input by default_.&#8221;<br />
sounds as if the work of this subdistro isn&#8217;t being &#8220;folded into&#8221; ubuntu&#8217;s japanese version. I wonder why..</p>
<p>scripted in a javascript forward to Jesustv.com.<br />
scripts? you mean an automtic redirect? if so, then ech.</p>
<p>btw, i came across acouple websites|forums dedicated to netbooks (personally, i find them even less usable than &#8220;regular&#8221; `15&#8243; laptops&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Spuffler</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/whats-the-point-of-ubuntu-remixes/comment-page-1/#comment-5964</link>
		<dc:creator>Spuffler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asus EeePC 900A: 4Gb solid state drive. Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04, when initially installed, left me with about 950 meg free space. I needed a tighter distro than PCLinuxOS and Arch is too elite for me.

I had a bear of a time finding any discussions anywhere that told me how to boot my exact model of EeePC from an SD card or from USB. I eventually found UNR 9.04, got the image onto a Flash drive, got the netbook to boot from USB, and buh-bye AsusOS.

Not too many discussions bother to say which specific EeePC netbook they are discussing. One guy told me any distro would fit an EeePC, after all, &#039;... we have 160g hard disks, just blow away windows... why was it such an issue to have free space after installing a distro?&#039;. He got an eye full of EeePC model numbers and options.... We all forget about that, so I let him off easy.

All the same, if Ubuntu had not offered UNR9.04, I&#039;d be up the creek: the original AsusOS had filled my hard disk to 99% and the normal tools refused to uninstall any factory installed software.

I would not have been able to install a normal distro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asus EeePC 900A: 4Gb solid state drive. Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04, when initially installed, left me with about 950 meg free space. I needed a tighter distro than PCLinuxOS and Arch is too elite for me.</p>
<p>I had a bear of a time finding any discussions anywhere that told me how to boot my exact model of EeePC from an SD card or from USB. I eventually found UNR 9.04, got the image onto a Flash drive, got the netbook to boot from USB, and buh-bye AsusOS.</p>
<p>Not too many discussions bother to say which specific EeePC netbook they are discussing. One guy told me any distro would fit an EeePC, after all, &#8216;&#8230; we have 160g hard disks, just blow away windows&#8230; why was it such an issue to have free space after installing a distro?&#8217;. He got an eye full of EeePC model numbers and options&#8230;. We all forget about that, so I let him off easy.</p>
<p>All the same, if Ubuntu had not offered UNR9.04, I&#8217;d be up the creek: the original AsusOS had filled my hard disk to 99% and the normal tools refused to uninstall any factory installed software.</p>
<p>I would not have been able to install a normal distro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to google &quot;ubuntu christian edition&quot;, because I did not beleive the author. This stuff can&#039;t be real... 1st hit on google: ubuntuce.com

A very ugly website, that smells like MS frontpage appears: &quot;Freely ye have received, Freely ye give.&quot;
- holy moly!

If that&#039;s not enough our Christian buddies have scripted in a javascript forward to Jesustv.com. 
- holy holy !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to google &#8220;ubuntu christian edition&#8221;, because I did not beleive the author. This stuff can&#8217;t be real&#8230; 1st hit on google: ubuntuce.com</p>
<p>A very ugly website, that smells like MS frontpage appears: &#8220;Freely ye have received, Freely ye give.&#8221;<br />
- holy moly!</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s not enough our Christian buddies have scripted in a javascript forward to Jesustv.com.<br />
- holy holy !</p>
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		<title>By: Aubrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aubrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally, I agree with you too!  Our own remix is OzOS and arose mainly because of things that were NOT in the Ubuntu repos - especially an up-to-date build of e17 - and because there were things in the default install that were &quot;surplus to requirements&quot; -   We certainly don&#039;t hide our Ubuntu (or, rather, Xubuntu) base.  We do also package as a metapackage (several, in fact) that has now been &quot;ported&quot; to at least one other distro (Arch) and has been modified to work natively with Debian.  Specific remixes with a particular user-base or purpose in mind are a great addition to the Ubuntu family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally, I agree with you too!  Our own remix is OzOS and arose mainly because of things that were NOT in the Ubuntu repos &#8211; especially an up-to-date build of e17 &#8211; and because there were things in the default install that were &#8220;surplus to requirements&#8221; &#8211;   We certainly don&#8217;t hide our Ubuntu (or, rather, Xubuntu) base.  We do also package as a metapackage (several, in fact) that has now been &#8220;ported&#8221; to at least one other distro (Arch) and has been modified to work natively with Debian.  Specific remixes with a particular user-base or purpose in mind are a great addition to the Ubuntu family.</p>
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		<title>By: Prinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, for instance there&#039;s the Ubuntu Japanese Remix, which is necessary because for some reason the regular Japanese Ubuntu install gives you awful (and I mean practically unreadable) Japanese fonts and, what&#039;s worse, _doesn&#039;t include support for Japanese input by default_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, for instance there&#8217;s the Ubuntu Japanese Remix, which is necessary because for some reason the regular Japanese Ubuntu install gives you awful (and I mean practically unreadable) Japanese fonts and, what&#8217;s worse, _doesn&#8217;t include support for Japanese input by default_.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve taken to making a list of &quot;these are the packages to add to every Ubuntu install I do&quot;.  I.e., my own defaults for a &#039;Linux on the desktop&#039; setup. 

I got into the habit of doing fresh installs when updating Ubuntu, I install things I find useful when I get someone to give Linux a try, and I tinker with hardware &amp; building/rebuilding systems.  (I keep &#039;/home&#039; on a separate partition to make it workable.)  

So, being able to create my own remix that will add these extra packages automagically is a plus.  Knowing that the key word to search for is &quot;remix&quot; helps!  I just found a how-to on the community help site...

After that, there&#039;s a small list of configurations, then it&#039;s ready to roll.  Even adding VMware gives me a build-from-scratch time of not more than an hour.  

I&#039;ve walked new users through the entire installation process while I brief them on differences from Windows before their &quot;test drive&quot; -- the elegance of the process makes a great impression.  Not having to open Synaptic as part of that to &quot;top it off&quot; will certainly help, not just time-wise, but also to make it look a lot less complicated to new users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken to making a list of &#8220;these are the packages to add to every Ubuntu install I do&#8221;.  I.e., my own defaults for a &#8216;Linux on the desktop&#8217; setup. </p>
<p>I got into the habit of doing fresh installs when updating Ubuntu, I install things I find useful when I get someone to give Linux a try, and I tinker with hardware &amp; building/rebuilding systems.  (I keep &#8216;/home&#8217; on a separate partition to make it workable.)  </p>
<p>So, being able to create my own remix that will add these extra packages automagically is a plus.  Knowing that the key word to search for is &#8220;remix&#8221; helps!  I just found a how-to on the community help site&#8230;</p>
<p>After that, there&#8217;s a small list of configurations, then it&#8217;s ready to roll.  Even adding VMware gives me a build-from-scratch time of not more than an hour.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve walked new users through the entire installation process while I brief them on differences from Windows before their &#8220;test drive&#8221; &#8212; the elegance of the process makes a great impression.  Not having to open Synaptic as part of that to &#8220;top it off&#8221; will certainly help, not just time-wise, but also to make it look a lot less complicated to new users.</p>
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		<title>By: Mesanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mesanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s the beauty of open source in action! Everyone has different requirements from their PC, and FOSS gives you the ability to create something that suits YOUR needs and YOUR hardware. You don&#039;t have to be stuck with what a faceless corporation decides you should have. 

Well done with the Remix, I&#039;m sure it has made life easier for a bunch of people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s the beauty of open source in action! Everyone has different requirements from their PC, and FOSS gives you the ability to create something that suits YOUR needs and YOUR hardware. You don&#8217;t have to be stuck with what a faceless corporation decides you should have. </p>
<p>Well done with the Remix, I&#8217;m sure it has made life easier for a bunch of people!</p>
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		<title>By: lefty.crupps</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty.crupps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, which is why I wish I could make a nice Debian remix, with the software (KDE4) and repos (debian-multimedia) that I want on the base (Debian Sid) that I want it on.

But Debian Sid changes too much to expect to be able to build a nice custom CD from it, and I won&#039;t trust Ubuntu for my work (nor would I recommend it to a new user).  So, for now I am just waiting for Sidux to make its KDE4 release sometime within the next month or so.  Not perfect, but far better than what the Kubuntu people put out (a Gnomified KDE with the same old broken *buntu packages)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, which is why I wish I could make a nice Debian remix, with the software (KDE4) and repos (debian-multimedia) that I want on the base (Debian Sid) that I want it on.</p>
<p>But Debian Sid changes too much to expect to be able to build a nice custom CD from it, and I won&#8217;t trust Ubuntu for my work (nor would I recommend it to a new user).  So, for now I am just waiting for Sidux to make its KDE4 release sometime within the next month or so.  Not perfect, but far better than what the Kubuntu people put out (a Gnomified KDE with the same old broken *buntu packages)</p>
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