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		<title>By: tytycoon</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/i-dont-drink-coffee/comment-page-1/#comment-3507</link>
		<dc:creator>tytycoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, I totally agree with you. I really can&#039;t stand the &#039;getting drunk&#039; phenomenon that pervades American culture and it&#039;s followers (I&#039;m from Canada). I do drink something from time to time (like one beer or a glass of wine), and I drink tea , but mostly because I enjoy those things, not because I want to be drunk, stay awake or for any kind of &#039;respect&#039;.

Oh, and I too don&#039;t really goto parties, bars, etc. and feel a little judged by those who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, I totally agree with you. I really can&#8217;t stand the &#8216;getting drunk&#8217; phenomenon that pervades American culture and it&#8217;s followers (I&#8217;m from Canada). I do drink something from time to time (like one beer or a glass of wine), and I drink tea , but mostly because I enjoy those things, not because I want to be drunk, stay awake or for any kind of &#8216;respect&#8217;.</p>
<p>Oh, and I too don&#8217;t really goto parties, bars, etc. and feel a little judged by those who do.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/i-dont-drink-coffee/comment-page-1/#comment-3506</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.

I think I&#039;m in a similar boat, although it&#039;s alcohol more so than coffee that gets to me. I live in Australia and it&#039;s easy to see how the American obsession with coffee has spread to us.

Every morning most people come to work clutching their coffees as if they need them to breathe. Then over and over during the day they go out to fetch more and more coffee to sustain them during the day. 

There is a strange respect that people receive for drinking lots of cups of it every day and I&#039;m not sure I understand why, although it may stem from the similar mindset people have about drinking alcohol.

If you don&#039;t drink alcohol you&#039;re a freak. If you can remember what you did the night before, then you didn&#039;t drink enough, or you didn&#039;t &quot;go hard&quot;. I don&#039;t consider myself prudish, I just really don&#039;t understand the mentality behind it. 

Perhaps the same &quot;respect&quot; that people receive for getting seriously drunk and doing all sorts of things they wouldn&#039;t do sober, extends by day to the drinking of coffee, when it&#039;s worn as a badge of pride that they &quot;need&quot; that much caffeine in order to function properly.

I think it&#039;s sad really that that&#039;s how things are.

I occasionally drink coffee milk, but i don&#039;t touch alcohol. Never have (36yo). But I&#039;ve always felt like a freak who exists on the outside of regular life, and doesn&#039;t fit in because I don&#039;t go to the parties etc and &quot;have a great night&quot;.

I don&#039;t go, because it&#039;s no fun being sober among a room full of drunks. I&#039;d rather get out and do something else. Can&#039;t help feeling like a freak some days though. Oh well. Each to their own I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m in a similar boat, although it&#8217;s alcohol more so than coffee that gets to me. I live in Australia and it&#8217;s easy to see how the American obsession with coffee has spread to us.</p>
<p>Every morning most people come to work clutching their coffees as if they need them to breathe. Then over and over during the day they go out to fetch more and more coffee to sustain them during the day. </p>
<p>There is a strange respect that people receive for drinking lots of cups of it every day and I&#8217;m not sure I understand why, although it may stem from the similar mindset people have about drinking alcohol.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t drink alcohol you&#8217;re a freak. If you can remember what you did the night before, then you didn&#8217;t drink enough, or you didn&#8217;t &#8220;go hard&#8221;. I don&#8217;t consider myself prudish, I just really don&#8217;t understand the mentality behind it. </p>
<p>Perhaps the same &#8220;respect&#8221; that people receive for getting seriously drunk and doing all sorts of things they wouldn&#8217;t do sober, extends by day to the drinking of coffee, when it&#8217;s worn as a badge of pride that they &#8220;need&#8221; that much caffeine in order to function properly.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s sad really that that&#8217;s how things are.</p>
<p>I occasionally drink coffee milk, but i don&#8217;t touch alcohol. Never have (36yo). But I&#8217;ve always felt like a freak who exists on the outside of regular life, and doesn&#8217;t fit in because I don&#8217;t go to the parties etc and &#8220;have a great night&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t go, because it&#8217;s no fun being sober among a room full of drunks. I&#8217;d rather get out and do something else. Can&#8217;t help feeling like a freak some days though. Oh well. Each to their own I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/i-dont-drink-coffee/comment-page-1/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this post.

It seems like such a big thing in my generation (I&#039;m 20) to rely on substances like caffeine and alcohol for entertainment.  I guess this isn&#039;t unique to the millennials; every generation forms its own culture around mood-affecting substances.  What I object to is the sense of proving one&#039;s mettle or worth by the amount of substances you consume.  Again, this may not be unique.

Like with coffee -- I know many people who wake up and &quot;need&quot; a few cups to function right.  While I don&#039;t have a huge problem with that, it&#039;s a little annoying how respected that is (sort of &quot;oh, you need three cups of coffee, you&#039;re really hardcore&quot;) and how being able to wake up fine without caffeine is thoroughly unimpressive.  Same with alcohol or over-the-counter drugs, like you wrote -- dependence is respected, and when I choose to not alter my body&#039;s chemistry in that way, I feel like I lose a degree of respect from my peers.

This isn&#039;t an absolute rule, but it seems to be a general trend in the United States, at least.  Thanks for a great post, especially your first bullet point.  Caffeine doesn&#039;t have a real noticeable effect on me, but that&#039;s only one reason why I don&#039;t drink it... very good to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this post.</p>
<p>It seems like such a big thing in my generation (I&#8217;m 20) to rely on substances like caffeine and alcohol for entertainment.  I guess this isn&#8217;t unique to the millennials; every generation forms its own culture around mood-affecting substances.  What I object to is the sense of proving one&#8217;s mettle or worth by the amount of substances you consume.  Again, this may not be unique.</p>
<p>Like with coffee &#8212; I know many people who wake up and &#8220;need&#8221; a few cups to function right.  While I don&#8217;t have a huge problem with that, it&#8217;s a little annoying how respected that is (sort of &#8220;oh, you need three cups of coffee, you&#8217;re really hardcore&#8221;) and how being able to wake up fine without caffeine is thoroughly unimpressive.  Same with alcohol or over-the-counter drugs, like you wrote &#8212; dependence is respected, and when I choose to not alter my body&#8217;s chemistry in that way, I feel like I lose a degree of respect from my peers.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t an absolute rule, but it seems to be a general trend in the United States, at least.  Thanks for a great post, especially your first bullet point.  Caffeine doesn&#8217;t have a real noticeable effect on me, but that&#8217;s only one reason why I don&#8217;t drink it&#8230; very good to read.</p>
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		<title>By: ubuntucat</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/i-dont-drink-coffee/comment-page-1/#comment-2014</link>
		<dc:creator>ubuntucat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries.</description>
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		<title>By: Tallken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tallken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t mind but I can&#039;t remember, I guess it was from Ubuntu forums?</description>
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		<title>By: mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like iced (the ice cream-in-coffee kind) coffees, but they tend to make me irratible the next day. Probably because of my lack of tolerance for caffeine and small size; I&#039;ve had a rapid heartbeat for twelve hours following a 16-oz iced coffee.

I don&#039;t really ever crave it; I&#039;ll drink it if I&#039;m in a coffeehouse, my prefered social venue; but I really hate the withdrawl cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like iced (the ice cream-in-coffee kind) coffees, but they tend to make me irratible the next day. Probably because of my lack of tolerance for caffeine and small size; I&#8217;ve had a rapid heartbeat for twelve hours following a 16-oz iced coffee.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really ever crave it; I&#8217;ll drink it if I&#8217;m in a coffeehouse, my prefered social venue; but I really hate the withdrawl cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: ubuntucat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubuntucat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matthew
I like your grandfather already. I used to think I identified with C.S. Lewis until I found out he didn&#039;t respect people who don&#039;t smoke or drink. I have grown to appreciate wine over the years, but I&#039;m not much of a beer fan.

@Tallken
Mind if I ask how you found my blog, since it was independently of this site?

@cyberdork33
I think I may be, then. I may just be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matthew<br />
I like your grandfather already. I used to think I identified with C.S. Lewis until I found out he didn&#8217;t respect people who don&#8217;t smoke or drink. I have grown to appreciate wine over the years, but I&#8217;m not much of a beer fan.</p>
<p>@Tallken<br />
Mind if I ask how you found my blog, since it was independently of this site?</p>
<p>@cyberdork33<br />
I think I may be, then. I may just be.</p>
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		<title>By: cyberdork33</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyberdork33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I like mornings&quot; You are a morning person. No doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I like mornings&#8221; You are a morning person. No doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Tallken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tallken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually don&#039;t comment on your blog but in this case I must say that I morally/intellectually agree with you. Not that I think you need my approval but just to add to the discussion, in times I felt down I&#039;d do what others did in order to feel better... Not much of a result then, just got to the conclusion doing those things would help me feel relaxed, something I wouldn&#039;t feel unless I drunk coffee, alcohol or whatever. Still now I do those things because they help me feel better. Though in my mind I&#039;d like to stop -- and did for a time -- I always stress out unless I do those things, and when I&#039;m stressed I tend to block and do nothing and consequently feel miserable and do nothing even more.

It&#039;s a vicious circle.

It&#039;s like trading long term freedom for short term... Oh well... I&#039;m aware of that, at least it&#039;s a start...

Congrats on your blog, though I liked the older blog more (P.S.: just for your knowledge, I found your blog independently of the site, which lead me to a funny moment once I realised you were the same person)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually don&#8217;t comment on your blog but in this case I must say that I morally/intellectually agree with you. Not that I think you need my approval but just to add to the discussion, in times I felt down I&#8217;d do what others did in order to feel better&#8230; Not much of a result then, just got to the conclusion doing those things would help me feel relaxed, something I wouldn&#8217;t feel unless I drunk coffee, alcohol or whatever. Still now I do those things because they help me feel better. Though in my mind I&#8217;d like to stop &#8212; and did for a time &#8212; I always stress out unless I do those things, and when I&#8217;m stressed I tend to block and do nothing and consequently feel miserable and do nothing even more.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a vicious circle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like trading long term freedom for short term&#8230; Oh well&#8230; I&#8217;m aware of that, at least it&#8217;s a start&#8230;</p>
<p>Congrats on your blog, though I liked the older blog more (P.S.: just for your knowledge, I found your blog independently of the site, which lead me to a funny moment once I realised you were the same person)</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turn in your geek badge!

LOL.

My grandfather couldn&#039;t remember whether he once tried coffee or beer, but regardless of which one it was, he decided from that point on that he didn&#039;t like either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turn in your geek badge!</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
<p>My grandfather couldn&#8217;t remember whether he once tried coffee or beer, but regardless of which one it was, he decided from that point on that he didn&#8217;t like either.</p>
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