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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/how-else-can-linux-fail-in-the-consumer-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7775</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at the technology in new tablet from Notion Ink that was debuted at the CES, called &quot;Adam&quot;.  It not only has a Linux OS &amp; hardware features that everyone clamors for (including 1080p &amp; HDMI output), but it has what may become THE tablet and netbook display -- the Pixel Qi display.  

Tablet products based around this could bury the iPad as they further expand Linux in the consumer space.  This LCD can be built with existing LCD foundries/technology, display full-color backlit video, and can also run with the display power off in a monochrome &#039;e-paper&#039; mode -- at full video speeds.

There seem to be several tablet-class products popping up now.  And all but the iPad seem to have two things in common:  Small start-ups are developing them... and they&#039;re based on Linux.  

First it was smartphones, then netbooks, now tablets, and next it will be ...??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at the technology in new tablet from Notion Ink that was debuted at the CES, called &#8220;Adam&#8221;.  It not only has a Linux OS &amp; hardware features that everyone clamors for (including 1080p &amp; HDMI output), but it has what may become THE tablet and netbook display &#8212; the Pixel Qi display.  </p>
<p>Tablet products based around this could bury the iPad as they further expand Linux in the consumer space.  This LCD can be built with existing LCD foundries/technology, display full-color backlit video, and can also run with the display power off in a monochrome &#8216;e-paper&#8217; mode &#8212; at full video speeds.</p>
<p>There seem to be several tablet-class products popping up now.  And all but the iPad seem to have two things in common:  Small start-ups are developing them&#8230; and they&#8217;re based on Linux.  </p>
<p>First it was smartphones, then netbooks, now tablets, and next it will be &#8230;??</p>
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		<title>By: gxgxdg</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/how-else-can-linux-fail-in-the-consumer-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7773</link>
		<dc:creator>gxgxdg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a standard UI I mean themes. 
The freedesktop project tries to make desktop standards to allow interoperability between Gnome, KDE, XFCE,... 
Last time I looked I think I was a few things about UI&#039;s although I&#039;m not sure. Anyway it should be made if it&#039;s not present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a standard UI I mean themes.<br />
The freedesktop project tries to make desktop standards to allow interoperability between Gnome, KDE, XFCE,&#8230;<br />
Last time I looked I think I was a few things about UI&#8217;s although I&#8217;m not sure. Anyway it should be made if it&#8217;s not present.</p>
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		<title>By: gxgxdg</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/how-else-can-linux-fail-in-the-consumer-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7772</link>
		<dc:creator>gxgxdg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a free tablet you mean this?
http://www.ifreetablet.com/indexEN.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a free tablet you mean this?<br />
<a href="http://www.ifreetablet.com/indexEN.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.ifreetablet.com/indexEN.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: gxgxdg</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/how-else-can-linux-fail-in-the-consumer-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7587</link>
		<dc:creator>gxgxdg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main problems of Linux are inertia and moronic implementations. 

(There are other problems but as Microsoft and Apple can demonstrate, marketing can go a very long way.) 

Also it would be nice for people if the LSB would add some optional standard UI-design set that every distribution can build. This way Linux can get a familiar interface. Way to many companies try to make their own ui without realizing the defaults can sometimes be better than their own ui-cooking/cut-pasting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problems of Linux are inertia and moronic implementations. </p>
<p>(There are other problems but as Microsoft and Apple can demonstrate, marketing can go a very long way.) </p>
<p>Also it would be nice for people if the LSB would add some optional standard UI-design set that every distribution can build. This way Linux can get a familiar interface. Way to many companies try to make their own ui without realizing the defaults can sometimes be better than their own ui-cooking/cut-pasting.</p>
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		<title>By: vajorie</title>
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		<dc:creator>vajorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it’s about time you realized Bug #1 gets fixed once you create a full and unified software-hardware user experience.&quot;

you wrote that as if Apple has a significant market share over Microsoft? and as if Shuttleworth&#039;s Canonical produces hardware and software?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it’s about time you realized Bug #1 gets fixed once you create a full and unified software-hardware user experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>you wrote that as if Apple has a significant market share over Microsoft? and as if Shuttleworth&#8217;s Canonical produces hardware and software?</p>
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		<title>By: Brainstorms</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/how-else-can-linux-fail-in-the-consumer-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7536</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainstorms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So perhaps this is the target that Mr Jobs missed?

    http://thejoojoo.com/

(Check out the specs...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So perhaps this is the target that Mr Jobs missed?</p>
<p>    <a href="http://thejoojoo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thejoojoo.com/</a></p>
<p>(Check out the specs&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/how-else-can-linux-fail-in-the-consumer-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7533</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on the iPad is that it&#039;s not what &quot;most people&quot; (at least the most vocal out there now) want, caused in part because of Apple&#039;s culture of secrecy.  

I don&#039;t get that they developed this product with a lot of input from their target market, especially as the design was maturing.  If they had, then details of the iPad would have been everywhere on the Internet.  But that obviously didn&#039;t happen.  Ergo, if we didn&#039;t know anything about it before, then it&#039;s likely that not many *did* know about it or were able to provide input when its concepts were being developed and its feature set chosen.  (I, too, would have picked a different feature set.)

I.e., I get the impression that Apple had to &quot;guess&quot; at what was wanted/needed, build it in secrecy, and then debut it as a &quot;suprise&quot;.  That&#039;s their style.  Well, the surprise is now on Apple: They may not have guessed very well with this product...  

(This didn&#039;t happen with the iPhone because cell phones, PDAs, et al were an established &quot;device class&quot;, and Apple joined the party &#039;stylishly late&#039; -- knowing the shortcomings and having heard what the public wants in a smartphone.  Then making just that &amp; marketing it well.)

Perhaps now that Apple is just now getting their market&#039;s input on this new class of electro-product, it will (eventually) be improved with Flash, a USB port, a front-facing camera, multi-tasking, etc.  (Okay, maybe not Flash..)  But they&#039;re going to take egg on their face getting there due to this culture of tight secrecy prior to launch.  I think it back-fired in this case...

And, as one wag put it, &quot;Too bad the iPad doesn’t come with some kind of lid you could close to protect it from abrasion and shock. Come to think of it, you could put the keyboard on the bottom half and the screen could actually be incorporated into the lid.  You could call it a .. netbook maybe.&quot;  :^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on the iPad is that it&#8217;s not what &#8220;most people&#8221; (at least the most vocal out there now) want, caused in part because of Apple&#8217;s culture of secrecy.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get that they developed this product with a lot of input from their target market, especially as the design was maturing.  If they had, then details of the iPad would have been everywhere on the Internet.  But that obviously didn&#8217;t happen.  Ergo, if we didn&#8217;t know anything about it before, then it&#8217;s likely that not many *did* know about it or were able to provide input when its concepts were being developed and its feature set chosen.  (I, too, would have picked a different feature set.)</p>
<p>I.e., I get the impression that Apple had to &#8220;guess&#8221; at what was wanted/needed, build it in secrecy, and then debut it as a &#8220;suprise&#8221;.  That&#8217;s their style.  Well, the surprise is now on Apple: They may not have guessed very well with this product&#8230;  </p>
<p>(This didn&#8217;t happen with the iPhone because cell phones, PDAs, et al were an established &#8220;device class&#8221;, and Apple joined the party &#8216;stylishly late&#8217; &#8212; knowing the shortcomings and having heard what the public wants in a smartphone.  Then making just that &amp; marketing it well.)</p>
<p>Perhaps now that Apple is just now getting their market&#8217;s input on this new class of electro-product, it will (eventually) be improved with Flash, a USB port, a front-facing camera, multi-tasking, etc.  (Okay, maybe not Flash..)  But they&#8217;re going to take egg on their face getting there due to this culture of tight secrecy prior to launch.  I think it back-fired in this case&#8230;</p>
<p>And, as one wag put it, &#8220;Too bad the iPad doesn’t come with some kind of lid you could close to protect it from abrasion and shock. Come to think of it, you could put the keyboard on the bottom half and the screen could actually be incorporated into the lid.  You could call it a .. netbook maybe.&#8221;  :^)</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The technical merits of Linux (or any OS) has little to do with its success in the consumer marketplace.  After all, if that were even remotely true, Windows would have succumbed long ago, no?

People decide on things like this mainly because of the reasons you listed: glitzy, eye-catching implementation; good, steady marketing; attractive pricing; consumer inertia; and vendor lock-in -- &quot;lock-in&quot; being in terms of &#039;practical&#039; (I already bought apps that work on *this* OS), &#039;mental&#039; (it&#039;s the devil I know), and &#039;associative&#039; (it&#039;s what I use at work, and what my friends use).

There&#039;s also a somewhat ironic tendency regarding pricing that influences this.  People tend to place a mental value on something that they themselves have to *pay* for.  Something that&#039;s given to them or is available free tends to garner a certain &#039;contempt&#039;, as though &quot;it&#039;s not worth as much as this one that you have to pay so much for&quot;.  

I&#039;ve seen this happen a lot, and in different forms.  There&#039;s a mental block to overcome in convincing people that something that&#039;s free can actually be not just &quot;good&quot;, but &quot;better&quot; than for-pay alternatives.

I tend to think that at this point it&#039;s a good idea for one Linux user to introduce a person to Linux, rather than depend on a new user adopting Linux by purchasing it pre-installed on a new PC -- only partly for the reasons cited above having to do with &quot;defective by design&quot; marketing failures -- or tele-support.  

Buying a Windows machine, then installing Linux has advantages well past the ability to pick &amp; choose *any* hardware (that&#039;s compatible), etc.: It allows the user to move their Windows license into VirtualBox (which is superior to dual-booting) and have two OSes to work with, a real plus during &quot;transition&quot;.

Having Windows-in-a-Box provides a near-perfect method for a new user to gradually migrate from Windows familiarity to Linux, pulling up roots slowly, learning the new OS slowly -- or as quickly as they wish/are able.  And in the end always having the ability to occasionally run needed Windows-only software.  I believe the merits of Linux will be a magnet to doing most of their computing in Linux, especially anything having to do with the Internet.

So I think that&#039;s another area where the execution has been flubbed:  Easing the transition into &quot;something shiny &amp; new&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The technical merits of Linux (or any OS) has little to do with its success in the consumer marketplace.  After all, if that were even remotely true, Windows would have succumbed long ago, no?</p>
<p>People decide on things like this mainly because of the reasons you listed: glitzy, eye-catching implementation; good, steady marketing; attractive pricing; consumer inertia; and vendor lock-in &#8212; &#8220;lock-in&#8221; being in terms of &#8216;practical&#8217; (I already bought apps that work on *this* OS), &#8216;mental&#8217; (it&#8217;s the devil I know), and &#8216;associative&#8217; (it&#8217;s what I use at work, and what my friends use).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a somewhat ironic tendency regarding pricing that influences this.  People tend to place a mental value on something that they themselves have to *pay* for.  Something that&#8217;s given to them or is available free tends to garner a certain &#8216;contempt&#8217;, as though &#8220;it&#8217;s not worth as much as this one that you have to pay so much for&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen this happen a lot, and in different forms.  There&#8217;s a mental block to overcome in convincing people that something that&#8217;s free can actually be not just &#8220;good&#8221;, but &#8220;better&#8221; than for-pay alternatives.</p>
<p>I tend to think that at this point it&#8217;s a good idea for one Linux user to introduce a person to Linux, rather than depend on a new user adopting Linux by purchasing it pre-installed on a new PC &#8212; only partly for the reasons cited above having to do with &#8220;defective by design&#8221; marketing failures &#8212; or tele-support.  </p>
<p>Buying a Windows machine, then installing Linux has advantages well past the ability to pick &amp; choose *any* hardware (that&#8217;s compatible), etc.: It allows the user to move their Windows license into VirtualBox (which is superior to dual-booting) and have two OSes to work with, a real plus during &#8220;transition&#8221;.</p>
<p>Having Windows-in-a-Box provides a near-perfect method for a new user to gradually migrate from Windows familiarity to Linux, pulling up roots slowly, learning the new OS slowly &#8212; or as quickly as they wish/are able.  And in the end always having the ability to occasionally run needed Windows-only software.  I believe the merits of Linux will be a magnet to doing most of their computing in Linux, especially anything having to do with the Internet.</p>
<p>So I think that&#8217;s another area where the execution has been flubbed:  Easing the transition into &#8220;something shiny &amp; new&#8221;.</p>
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