Comments on: A few thoughts on health care reform in the US http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-few-thoughts-on-health-care-reform-in-the-us/ Random musings from the radical feminist Christian antiracist left - some having to do with Ubuntu Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:47:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Alpheus http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-few-thoughts-on-health-care-reform-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6500 Alpheus Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:25:24 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1601#comment-6500 As an American who has lived in Great Britain for a couple of years, I have to point out that I DO NOT want to live in a country that has socialized medicine. Medicare and Medicaid have done a lot already to damage our health care system (their policy of paying a doctor only part of what he is owed has pushed up costs dramatically for non-Medic* patients); Barak Obama is in the final stages of attempting to finish the government takeover of health. Furthermore, America already has a multi-trillion-dollar deficit because of non-health-care issues; what would happen to my society if we add yet another trillion to that? We are facing massive inflation. Just as a reminder: deficits and inflation is what led to the German dictatorship that is knows for its destruction and killing more than anything else. Finally, it isn't just horror stories: statistically, the United States provides faster care, and has greater survival rates for cancer and other diseases, than either UK or Canada; and both Canada and the UK have policies that prevent people from seeking the best care as well. (One example: a woman with breast cancer wanted to use a certain drug, but the NHS decided that they wouldn't cover it; they *also* decided that she couldn't pay for that one drug unless she paid for her entire treatment! Thus, her cancer progressed, and she's going to die now. No United States insurance company will *ever* deny you your coverage because you chose to personally pay for something they don't cover.) Live free or die! For death is NOT the greatest of evils! As an American who has lived in Great Britain for a couple of years, I have to point out that I DO NOT want to live in a country that has socialized medicine. Medicare and Medicaid have done a lot already to damage our health care system (their policy of paying a doctor only part of what he is owed has pushed up costs dramatically for non-Medic* patients); Barak Obama is in the final stages of attempting to finish the government takeover of health.

Furthermore, America already has a multi-trillion-dollar deficit because of non-health-care issues; what would happen to my society if we add yet another trillion to that? We are facing massive inflation. Just as a reminder: deficits and inflation is what led to the German dictatorship that is knows for its destruction and killing more than anything else.

Finally, it isn’t just horror stories: statistically, the United States provides faster care, and has greater survival rates for cancer and other diseases, than either UK or Canada; and both Canada and the UK have policies that prevent people from seeking the best care as well. (One example: a woman with breast cancer wanted to use a certain drug, but the NHS decided that they wouldn’t cover it; they *also* decided that she couldn’t pay for that one drug unless she paid for her entire treatment! Thus, her cancer progressed, and she’s going to die now. No United States insurance company will *ever* deny you your coverage because you chose to personally pay for something they don’t cover.)

Live free or die! For death is NOT the greatest of evils!

]]> By: Amr http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-few-thoughts-on-health-care-reform-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6492 Amr Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:07:57 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1601#comment-6492 I have not been following the debate in the USA closely, so I don't know what arguments are being made for or against state sponsored health care. But living in Austria, I can say that I cannot imagine what life must be like in a country that offers only private medical insurance. State sponsored medical care, if done right, is so hassle free and useful. Granted, it's not always economically profitable, but it sure is better than wasting billions on arms and war. I would rather have a deficit based on health and care, than destruction and killing. I have not been following the debate in the USA closely, so I don’t know what arguments are being made for or against state sponsored health care.

But living in Austria, I can say that I cannot imagine what life must be like in a country that offers only private medical insurance.

State sponsored medical care, if done right, is so hassle free and useful. Granted, it’s not always economically profitable, but it sure is better than wasting billions on arms and war.

I would rather have a deficit based on health and care, than destruction and killing.

]]> By: Adam Hunt http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-few-thoughts-on-health-care-reform-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6400 Adam Hunt Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:04:49 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1601#comment-6400 Up here in Canada we generally don't consider a nation civilized if they don't provide all their residents with basic health care and if they still have the death penalty. It just seems odd to us that there are such countries that have taxpayer sponsored killings, but not taxpayer sponsored health care! The US may one day join the long list of civilized countries yet! Up here in Canada we generally don’t consider a nation civilized if they don’t provide all their residents with basic health care and if they still have the death penalty.

It just seems odd to us that there are such countries that have taxpayer sponsored killings, but not taxpayer sponsored health care!

The US may one day join the long list of civilized countries yet!

]]> By: Eric http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-few-thoughts-on-health-care-reform-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6395 Eric Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:09:41 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1601#comment-6395 Government backed health care could be good but remember we are going to have to pay for it with our taxes. Government backed health care could be good but remember we are going to have to pay for it with our taxes.

]]> By: Chas http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-few-thoughts-on-health-care-reform-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6394 Chas Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:57:29 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1601#comment-6394 Something you never hear in the UK: "Wouldn't it be great if we had a healthcare system like they have in the USA?". The fact that senior UK politicians from all sides have spoken out in support of the NHS and distanced themselves from the odd dissident indicates that they know, while the UK public reserve the right to moan about the NHS, you threaten to remove it at your peril. Something you never hear in the UK: “Wouldn’t it be great if we had a healthcare system like they have in the USA?”. The fact that senior UK politicians from all sides have spoken out in support of the NHS and distanced themselves from the odd dissident indicates that they know, while the UK public reserve the right to moan about the NHS, you threaten to remove it at your peril.

]]> By: themcp http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-few-thoughts-on-health-care-reform-in-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-6393 themcp Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:37:10 +0000 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/?p=1601#comment-6393 my counterargument: booga booga! fascism! communism! nazis are taking our freedoms! liberals and brown people are after our guns! booga booga! (-: my counterargument: booga booga! fascism! communism! nazis are taking our freedoms! liberals and brown people are after our guns! booga booga!

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