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		<title>By: ubuntucat</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-christian-perspective-on-homosexuality/comment-page-1/#comment-7589</link>
		<dc:creator>ubuntucat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is almost eight years old. For the sequel, read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/re-thinking-christianity-and-homosexuality/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Re-thinking Christianity and “Homosexuality”&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is almost eight years old. For the sequel, read <a href="http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/re-thinking-christianity-and-homosexuality/" rel="nofollow">Re-thinking Christianity and “Homosexuality”</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben B</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-christian-perspective-on-homosexuality/comment-page-1/#comment-7585</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m not a fan of this logic. The assumption that homosexuality is “wrong” just does not seem to have any basis. Believing that homosexuals are just lost souls who have yet to discover the guiding light of religion really seems ridiculous, I’m sorry. Trying to bend people into a lifestyle which is contrary to their actual desires just does not work.


I can agree with you on this point. You can not control other folks like property.


Actually, clarifying what it is you mean by “gay” would be helpful. If you mean people who self identify as being homosexual, and by wrong you mean that (just as for heterosexuals) they should not necessarily label themselves that way because sexuality is a much more fluid concept, I can accept that argument.

I think the OP was pretty clear in saying they referred to those identifying as homosexual. And while I disagree with the view that homosexuality is wrong, the post does not state that. This post is about as balanced as I&#039;ve seen in a while. 

What they say is other Christians label non-religious homosexuals as wrong. I can understand the article pointing out all the double standards and yet advocating fluidity of sexuality. This really is some tough writing to do because it is a difficult subject. The OP did a great job nonetheless. 

Do you have any “gay” friends?

I think your question and veiled accusation is really out of place here. Imagine an Atheist bisexual man stopping in and reading the article, then telling you that you&#039;re out of line. Guess what? I just did. It doesn&#039;t matter weather the OP has homosexual or happy friends. It is their right to speak about nearly subject, to express their views freely. We all have that same right despite what some governments still attempt to assert contrary. So, yeah bud, you&#039;re out of line.

And I did enjoy reading an intelligent and reasoned expression of a point of view. I understood what the OP was saying. I concur, there are many so called &#039;good Christians&#039; that mere facades hiding hypocritical blasphemy. But the OP isn&#039;t one of those. I&#039;d be happy to call someone like the OP a friend. They&#039;re pretty sharp and got things going on. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not a fan of this logic. The assumption that homosexuality is “wrong” just does not seem to have any basis. Believing that homosexuals are just lost souls who have yet to discover the guiding light of religion really seems ridiculous, I’m sorry. Trying to bend people into a lifestyle which is contrary to their actual desires just does not work.</p>
<p>I can agree with you on this point. You can not control other folks like property.</p>
<p>Actually, clarifying what it is you mean by “gay” would be helpful. If you mean people who self identify as being homosexual, and by wrong you mean that (just as for heterosexuals) they should not necessarily label themselves that way because sexuality is a much more fluid concept, I can accept that argument.</p>
<p>I think the OP was pretty clear in saying they referred to those identifying as homosexual. And while I disagree with the view that homosexuality is wrong, the post does not state that. This post is about as balanced as I&#8217;ve seen in a while. </p>
<p>What they say is other Christians label non-religious homosexuals as wrong. I can understand the article pointing out all the double standards and yet advocating fluidity of sexuality. This really is some tough writing to do because it is a difficult subject. The OP did a great job nonetheless. </p>
<p>Do you have any “gay” friends?</p>
<p>I think your question and veiled accusation is really out of place here. Imagine an Atheist bisexual man stopping in and reading the article, then telling you that you&#8217;re out of line. Guess what? I just did. It doesn&#8217;t matter weather the OP has homosexual or happy friends. It is their right to speak about nearly subject, to express their views freely. We all have that same right despite what some governments still attempt to assert contrary. So, yeah bud, you&#8217;re out of line.</p>
<p>And I did enjoy reading an intelligent and reasoned expression of a point of view. I understood what the OP was saying. I concur, there are many so called &#8216;good Christians&#8217; that mere facades hiding hypocritical blasphemy. But the OP isn&#8217;t one of those. I&#8217;d be happy to call someone like the OP a friend. They&#8217;re pretty sharp and got things going on. </p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humans love polarization and categorization. You are either gay or straight, male or female, black or white. Unfortunately, things are much more fluid than that in most cases. This polarization leads to the gay and straight &quot;identities&quot; and produces a social separation of these two poles.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Back in the times the Bible was written, there were no people who said, “I’m gay.” Neither were there straight people. There were just people. And most people ended up married to someone of the other gender at some point. There weren’t gay people. There was same-sex sex.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This leads to a chicken-and-egg problem. Is it the creation of the &quot;gay&quot; identity which lead to people self-identifying as gay, or were there always people who simply preferred the same sex sexually. Or perhaps, it is through the creation of these sexual identities that we now believe that people can indeed prefer one sex more than the other, while before it was simply a matter of sexuality in general regardless of sex.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Until gay people convert to Christianity and realize being gay is wrong, they should have every right to make mistakes because they don’t know any better.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not a fan of this logic. The assumption that homosexuality is &quot;wrong&quot; just does not seem to have any basis. Believing that homosexuals are just lost souls who have yet to discover the guiding light of religion really seems ridiculous, I&#039;m sorry. Trying to bend people into a lifestyle which is contrary to their actual desires just does not work.

Actually, clarifying what it is you mean by &quot;gay&quot; would be helpful. If you mean people who self identify as being homosexual, and by wrong you mean that (just as for heterosexuals) they should not necessarily label themselves that way because sexuality is a much more fluid concept, I can accept that argument.

Do you have any &quot;gay&quot; friends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans love polarization and categorization. You are either gay or straight, male or female, black or white. Unfortunately, things are much more fluid than that in most cases. This polarization leads to the gay and straight &#8220;identities&#8221; and produces a social separation of these two poles.</p>
<blockquote><p>Back in the times the Bible was written, there were no people who said, “I’m gay.” Neither were there straight people. There were just people. And most people ended up married to someone of the other gender at some point. There weren’t gay people. There was same-sex sex.</p></blockquote>
<p>This leads to a chicken-and-egg problem. Is it the creation of the &#8220;gay&#8221; identity which lead to people self-identifying as gay, or were there always people who simply preferred the same sex sexually. Or perhaps, it is through the creation of these sexual identities that we now believe that people can indeed prefer one sex more than the other, while before it was simply a matter of sexuality in general regardless of sex.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Until gay people convert to Christianity and realize being gay is wrong, they should have every right to make mistakes because they don’t know any better.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of this logic. The assumption that homosexuality is &#8220;wrong&#8221; just does not seem to have any basis. Believing that homosexuals are just lost souls who have yet to discover the guiding light of religion really seems ridiculous, I&#8217;m sorry. Trying to bend people into a lifestyle which is contrary to their actual desires just does not work.</p>
<p>Actually, clarifying what it is you mean by &#8220;gay&#8221; would be helpful. If you mean people who self identify as being homosexual, and by wrong you mean that (just as for heterosexuals) they should not necessarily label themselves that way because sexuality is a much more fluid concept, I can accept that argument.</p>
<p>Do you have any &#8220;gay&#8221; friends?</p>
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		<title>By: ubuntucat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubuntucat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there aren&#039;t that many of us out there, Ben G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there aren&#8217;t that many of us out there, Ben G.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben G.</title>
		<link>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-christian-perspective-on-homosexuality/comment-page-1/#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my gosh, GET OUT OF MY HEAD!  Seriously.  You and I think waaaaay too much alike on this topic.  Dang, and I thought I was being original! hehehehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gosh, GET OUT OF MY HEAD!  Seriously.  You and I think waaaaay too much alike on this topic.  Dang, and I thought I was being original! hehehehe.</p>
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		<title>By: UbuntuCat Re-thinking Christianity and &#8220;Homosexuality&#8221; &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>UbuntuCat Re-thinking Christianity and &#8220;Homosexuality&#8221; &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] July 2nd, 2007 &#8212; ubuntucat   Several years ago, I wrote an essay called A Christian Perspective on &#8220;Homosexuality,&#8221; in which I tried to put forth what I viewed as a balanced view of Biblical truth and sociological [...]</description>
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